So one of my jobs here is to be the guardian of critical thinking. Two posts ago, I have a pass to the above image, saying that it got me thinking, and I found its "argument" to be fairly sound.

Someone on the internet was less swayed, and released this picture as a counter-punch. 

And to quote Amy Pond (and dang, Amy Pond herself is an endless argument waiting to happen about women in geek culture, because she is assertive, has sexy legs, kills people, is kidnapped, and lets a strange man into her house as a 9 year old, but isn't scared of him...where do we even start! Anyway, moving on...) "Okay kids, this is where it gets complicated". 

Even though the people picked in the above picture are cherry picked...so are the people in the below picture. I am actually not up on things, so I can't identify them, but... Lady Gaga? Wouldn't Madonna be more representative? But Madonna would certainly not be a point against pop culture female sexuality.

And I actually can't really even identify the women from "Geek culture" below...I don't know if they are representative. Although the entire "chainmail bikini in freezing snow" thing certainly is a well known trope. But...

Well, this is where it is complicated. The culture around is full of messages, some of them overt, some of them covert. And they all say different things, and it is hard to decide what is the real message. So...um, well, its an interesting debate, isn't it?

Also: all data is cherry picked.